tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.comments2023-05-15T15:18:19.349+01:00DEUS CARITAS ESTCanon Jerome Lloyd OSJVhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10764146635659770019noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-28618788803223845682012-02-10T23:28:44.942+00:002012-02-10T23:28:44.942+00:00Inspiring reading Dear Jerome +
Father Ed Bakker ...Inspiring reading Dear Jerome +<br /><br />Father Ed Bakker <br />Bendigo , AustraliaFrEdBakkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04731831225107760530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-83716142675304542392011-10-27T23:10:13.085+01:002011-10-27T23:10:13.085+01:00Thanks for this post. You seem to see very clearl...Thanks for this post. You seem to see very clearly into the situation, without on the one hand lumping all homosexuality together, but also without romanticising it. Unfortunately, the RCC is in its official teaching very strong on describing homosexual activity but also same sex attraction as disordered, but in every day existence most priests (in my experience) have little or nothing to say about it (or advice to give). This makes being SSA and Catholic quite a strange isolating experience. I don't see the "LGBT community" filling the gap, somehow, though I agree with your suggestion that (in particular) Christian "LGBT" movements should propose appropriate kinds of support for gay Christians. Of course, for many gay "activists" the idea of fidelity, monogamy etc are merely aping traditional marriage and should therefore be rejected on that basis alone (this is not a view I share, I should add!!). So, in that sense I am very glad that you have chosen to write something about all this, and for the encouragement to everyone to pursue holiness!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-16684443872014717692011-10-27T22:55:37.066+01:002011-10-27T22:55:37.066+01:00Thanks, Father! Sounds a very reasonable solution...Thanks, Father! Sounds a very reasonable solution to me :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-7828772040596998842011-10-10T20:18:59.082+01:002011-10-10T20:18:59.082+01:00Interesting blog.Interesting blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-22305871414714466032011-08-18T00:36:14.840+01:002011-08-18T00:36:14.840+01:00In principle we follow the current Roman General C...In principle we follow the current Roman General Calendar. However, we fill the "Ferias" with the observance of Saints from the old Sanctoral cycle e.g. local/regional and national Saints unless these have been moved to other dates in the new calendar; we never transfer Solemnities but keep them on their traditional days.Canon Jerome Lloyd OSJVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10764146635659770019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-5953586014664537472011-08-18T00:16:01.411+01:002011-08-18T00:16:01.411+01:00Father - thanks for this ministry of internet broa...Father - thanks for this ministry of internet broadcast holy mass! <br /><br />I was interested to see that you celebrated Edith Stein, who is a very modern saint! Do you celebrate all the recently created saints?Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05705761696437705220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-21366274652650971612011-06-19T07:41:55.307+01:002011-06-19T07:41:55.307+01:00Being partly responsible for the "Catechism o...Being partly responsible for the "Catechism of the Catholic Church" hardly credits one as "sound" according to true Tradition. As is ably demonstrated by his praxis and teaching.Canon Jerome Lloyd OSJVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10764146635659770019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-42341242207087011112011-06-19T06:09:36.298+01:002011-06-19T06:09:36.298+01:00My very quick and probably tactless answer is that...My very quick and probably tactless answer is that the Church does profess one faith - albeit in a variety of ways - but is plagued by heresy and corruption in high places, the fruit of the Adversary's efforts to frustrate her mission.<br /><br />Schoenborn is an interesting case. He was the editor-in-chief of the Catechism of the Catholic Church and hence has to be regarded as the acme of soundness, is open-minded about homosexuality, and yet tolerates liturgical horrors in his diocese. Baffling.AndrewWShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00196842185913965725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-69656196764091704732011-06-19T06:01:47.997+01:002011-06-19T06:01:47.997+01:00This is an organisation of which I was previously ...This is an organisation of which I was previously unaware.<br /><br />Your efforts in this respect are quite admirable.AndrewWShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00196842185913965725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-40275961094199621362011-06-17T10:51:48.035+01:002011-06-17T10:51:48.035+01:00I was there. As I understand it, the Evensong part...I was there. As I understand it, the Evensong part was as laid down in the Book of Divine Worship, which *is* licensed by the RC authorities. You can tell because the intercessions are different; no 'O Lord, save the Queen' for a start - unfortunately.AndrewWShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00196842185913965725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-51282905182078145332011-06-16T23:40:48.972+01:002011-06-16T23:40:48.972+01:00Reading Fortesque it is by no means clear that aft...Reading Fortesque it is by no means clear that after the Anglican (Protestant) service of "Vespers & Compline" the Celebrant and Assistants don't retire before offering the Catholic service of Benediction...<br /><br />A certain liturgical logic (redolent of Fortesque, though not "Ritual Notes") might suggest that indeed they don't go and change as this would perhaps be "fussy", IF one was prepared to accept their use of a Protestant Office as equivalent to fullfilling a Catholic recitation of the same Offices and a Catholic Cleric's canonical obligation. "Fussiness" however is not a consideration most Anglo-Catholics would seem normally to be concerned about.<br /><br />If one of the Orders of Evening Prayer from the Book of Divine Worship had been used and IF that Rite is a) Canonically permitted in the Ordinariate of OLW and b) has similar rubrics to the Traditional (Tridentine) Rite of Vespers; one might have had a point. Somehow I don't think either Rite I or II EP was used from the BDW? If either were, they certainly wouldn't seem to be expressive or recognisable as an "English" Anglican patrimony in any case. <br /><br />Anyway, there is nothing in the historic Anglican patrimonial formularies containing anything like the rubrical directions of Fortesque or the (former) SRC etc for "Evensong" (a non-Catholic Office) let alone Benediction and so the normal Catholic liturgical principles would seem to be alien to the Rite [Evensong] being employed. <br /><br />Actually the "liturgics" are not really the point of my criticism, that's an aside (though the principle of "lex credendi, lex orandi, lex vivendi" is). The main point is concerning the principle of a liturgical Office. They don't use the BCP so why offer it? Why observe a whole other Office and liturgical Rite i.e. the LOTH the rest of the week bar this occasion? Archaeology then? It obviously isn't an "organic" development as the BCP Office has no history with the development of the LOTH.Canon Jerome Lloyd OSJVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10764146635659770019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-41139094164717276272011-06-16T23:39:28.562+01:002011-06-16T23:39:28.562+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Canon Jerome Lloyd OSJVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10764146635659770019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-47211453666789322502011-06-16T23:03:13.885+01:002011-06-16T23:03:13.885+01:00When Benediction follows immediately after Vespers...When Benediction follows immediately after Vespers, copes (which are worn for Vespers by officiant and deacons) are retained. Going out and changing is unnecessary and prissy. Read your Fortescue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-19749058762722730342011-06-16T22:36:22.808+01:002011-06-16T22:36:22.808+01:00Call me a cynic but I'm beginning to suspect t...Call me a cynic but I'm beginning to suspect that "Anglican Patrimony" is going to mean a taste for gin and French (and maybe other examples might be found in A.N. Wilson's "Unguarded Hours"...). Oh, that isn't serious enough is it? But, we don't even have an "Ordinariate Liturgy" yet, and wont that be a mash-up of Prayer Book (1662/1928/CiW1984/ASB) and modern Roman Rite. So, will it be even as "good" as any of them? I am sadly getting a bit disillusioned with the whole Ordinariate concept :(<br /><br /><b>BCK</b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-32401069397060218702011-06-16T22:21:14.921+01:002011-06-16T22:21:14.921+01:00Whilst I agree with your comments, I must point ou...Whilst I agree with your comments, I must point out that no lesser an authority than Dr Fortescue allows the use of Assistants in cope when Benediction follows directly on from Vespers, in the colour of those Vespers of course (unless black).Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14033188305453801842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-24800022303645584782011-06-12T19:53:33.527+01:002011-06-12T19:53:33.527+01:00I make do on a very modest stipend, gratuities, st...I make do on a very modest stipend, gratuities, stole fees and the providence of God - all of which enables me to operate a full-time ministry for which I am truly thankful ;o)Canon Jerome Lloyd OSJVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10764146635659770019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-60914245639734183852011-06-09T16:12:47.499+01:002011-06-09T16:12:47.499+01:00Father, may I ask if you are a "tentmaker pri...Father, may I ask if you are a "tentmaker priest" with a job to keep body and soul together or whether you get by on Mass stipends, etc.?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-46467643596242199312011-05-23T22:08:06.025+01:002011-05-23T22:08:06.025+01:00http://thatthebonesyouhavecrushedmaythrill.blogspo...http://thatthebonesyouhavecrushedmaythrill.blogspot.com/2011/05/day-i-met-priest-of-old-catholic-church.html<br /><br />Hi Fr Jerome, I've done a blog post on our discussion today. It was lovely to meet you. <br /><br />God bless.<br /><br />LaurenceThe Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10271719805983763595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-29274037163334413072010-11-29T12:45:20.380+00:002010-11-29T12:45:20.380+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-79327809961185818762010-11-04T17:31:12.646+00:002010-11-04T17:31:12.646+00:00"Do no harm"...bloodthirsty, lying, murd..."Do no harm"...bloodthirsty, lying, murdering savages disguising themselves as physicians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-2175794137825332802010-10-17T22:32:26.493+01:002010-10-17T22:32:26.493+01:00Blessings Jerome +,
Dont apologize for the lack o...Blessings Jerome +, <br />Dont apologize for the lack of writing , I think we as clergy are tempted far too often to get involved in deep theological debates and the work that we are set out to do suffers. <br />I agree with your comments and we must try to set our priorities. <br />Enjoyed reading your post. <br />Blessings from down under, <br />Father Ed Bakker SSMFrEdBakkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04731831225107760530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-19255343051971013002010-05-26T18:54:27.020+01:002010-05-26T18:54:27.020+01:00I have to agree. There surely has to be a way to r...I have to agree. There surely has to be a way to reintegrate the important elements now lost back into the Universal Kalendar. Hopefully therefore giving common ground between the two forms of the Mass.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14033188305453801842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-3461793148248223762010-04-26T12:57:12.245+01:002010-04-26T12:57:12.245+01:00Indeed Andrew - with an Archepiscopal privilege I ...Indeed Andrew - with an Archepiscopal privilege I shouldn't wonder re the piping and buttons!Canon Jerome Lloyd OSJVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10764146635659770019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-51965659678919480642010-04-22T22:18:47.570+01:002010-04-22T22:18:47.570+01:00From their apparent age, I think these must be jun...From their apparent age, I think these must be junior seminarians. I remember there being a junior seminary at Monte Cassino when I visited 24 or so years ago - the boys there were the best servers I have seen!Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14033188305453801842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6182395207478542153.post-3637456101347960622010-04-21T09:24:35.216+01:002010-04-21T09:24:35.216+01:00AMENAMENCountess Sigrid von Galenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10762543745287277615noreply@blogger.com